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you've got half of those cuts in defense alone. >> well, the other part of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called the sequester, these automatic spending cuts. and that also would have a better outcome for our economy long-term. but you know, so far at least, congress has not been able to get this stuff done. not because democrats in congress don't want to go ahead and cooperate. but because i think it's been very hard for speaker boehner and republican leader mcconnell to accept the fact that taxes on the wealthiest americans should go up a little bit. as part of an overall deficit reduction package. >> you talk about a dysfunction in washington. you signed this legislation setting up the fiscal cliff 17 months a
you've got half of those cuts in defense alone. >> well, the other part of the fiscal cliff is congress agreed that they would cut an additional $1.2 trillion in spending. they put a committee together to try to come up with those numbers. they didn't figure out how to do it. and so what we now have is a situation where these automatic spending cuts go into place. now if we have raised some revenue by the wealthy paying a little bit more, that would be sufficient to turn off what's called...
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. >> lots to talk about, but first, your take on the fiscal cliff. >> isn't congress great? yesterday nbc had a poll, they had a 11% approval rating. the more shocking part is who are the 11% who think they're doing a good job? how low are their standards to think that congress -- this is the most dysfunctional group of people. we have to put them in couples therapy with dr. phil, dr. doolittle. i'm not sure who can help them. >> i'm not sure. >> we suffer as a result of their bipartisanship. >> we talked about the binders full of women, clint eastwood with the chair. general david petraeus. >> that was a big one, although in clint eastwood's defense, he made it okay to talk to your chair on national television. i've had conversations with my couch now as a result. >> you have? what do you say to your couch? >> we're close. i need more friends, apparently. i have to get on facebook and talk to more people. but it became james bond meets "the real housewives." you had the cia director, the top spy, his affair was uncovered. affairs are wrong, but if you're the top spy, keep t
. >> lots to talk about, but first, your take on the fiscal cliff. >> isn't congress great? yesterday nbc had a poll, they had a 11% approval rating. the more shocking part is who are the 11% who think they're doing a good job? how low are their standards to think that congress -- this is the most dysfunctional group of people. we have to put them in couples therapy with dr. phil, dr. doolittle. i'm not sure who can help them. >> i'm not sure. >> we suffer as a result of...
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how did we get to the edge of the fiscal cliff and the least productive congress in history? >> the public is implicated in this. 2008 the public elected president obama, democratic house, democratic senate. 2010, a large number of people in the public changed their minds they got angry at us over health care, which was misunderstood, angry at us because we inherited a section that we weren't able to defeat because of their obstruction. in 010 -- in most democracies that would be it. we have a constitution under which it's called the staggered powers, checks and balances, the last three elections are there. the problem is in 2008 you had one group of people elected, in 2010, another. there wasn't simply the people in 2010 were conservative. very substantial number of the people elected as republicans in 2010 do not believe in governance. they do not understand there are things we need for the quality of life we have to come together. this isn't bob dole. this isn't howard baker. this isn't ronald reagan. these are people that are quite extreme. what's happened is that many re
how did we get to the edge of the fiscal cliff and the least productive congress in history? >> the public is implicated in this. 2008 the public elected president obama, democratic house, democratic senate. 2010, a large number of people in the public changed their minds they got angry at us over health care, which was misunderstood, angry at us because we inherited a section that we weren't able to defeat because of their obstruction. in 010 -- in most democracies that would be it. we...
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. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm not sure that we're going to see a kumbaya situation. but as i say, there are some advantages for republicans in making some compromises if they will see it that way. and particularly the demographic challenges. so, you know, ultimately i think the one thing to do is keep -- be realistic about the timetable. i'm not sure the president is going to get everything done that he wants to in 2013 but i would bet on immigration reform. maybe that's crazy and you'll have me back here and i'll have to say no i was wrong. i do think it's so much in republicans' self-interest. they've got some really good spokesmen on t
. >> jill, if this fiscal cliff bill does get done is the new congress going to be more or less likely to work with the president on his second term agenda? >> well, the president is going to have more senators to work with, 55 as opposed to 53. that doesn't mean he'll have an easy time of it because republicans can block anything they want in the senate. it depends on what lessons if any republicans took from the election. i do think that the principle gap is very deep and so i'm...
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is there the possibility of a little bit of a band-aid for most americans before the fiscal cliff? >> i think absolutely. and i think also congress can buy a little more time if because, you know, what this deadline is congressional imposed so the band-aid over to january 2nd, the vote counting, 60 senate, 218 in the house is really -- this is the fine tuning that's going on to get these two big numbers in the deals and, thomas, i think then we have to think to get the patch, will it be bet tore have it slop over to the new congress in january 3rd or have the lame duck votes? i think even a patch may be a tough vote unless it's very, very broad so you have a few alternatives to go but at least if you're thinking small not big, there's a way out. >> all right. so reversing that, bob, thinking big not small, is the white house hoping to achieve some type of grand deal or is that just out of window at this point with so little time left? >> yes, thomas. i think any hope of a grand bargain this month is out the window. and the heavy lifting will be done, i agree with lynn, in 2013. wit
is there the possibility of a little bit of a band-aid for most americans before the fiscal cliff? >> i think absolutely. and i think also congress can buy a little more time if because, you know, what this deadline is congressional imposed so the band-aid over to january 2nd, the vote counting, 60 senate, 218 in the house is really -- this is the fine tuning that's going on to get these two big numbers in the deals and, thomas, i think then we have to think to get the patch, will it be...
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>> well, this was a unique situation because we did have the fiscal cliff and we had a lame duck congress. what i think we have to start trying to do is return to what's called around here regular order. there really is no such thing in this congress. but what that means is that the committees actually consider the bills. and the thing that is really the challenge for us is to get republicans and democrats to be working on these committees, talking about the different issues and trying to come up with some compromises. right now, it's just an all-or-nothing proposition, and the republicans have the majority in the house and it's their way or the highway. the senate filibuster is a big impediment. and in the old days that people speak about with some respect, republicans and democrats had meaningful interactions all along the way, so in the end it wasn't just this cliff deal. >> isn't it interesting that two 70-year-olds who have been around for decades were the ones to at least finally get the quick fix done. but the president said the other day he felt a broader agreement could be reache
>> well, this was a unique situation because we did have the fiscal cliff and we had a lame duck congress. what i think we have to start trying to do is return to what's called around here regular order. there really is no such thing in this congress. but what that means is that the committees actually consider the bills. and the thing that is really the challenge for us is to get republicans and democrats to be working on these committees, talking about the different issues and trying to...
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numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally dysfunctional right now and this is just probably the worst example of it. you know, i heard speaker boehner say a number of times that he doesn't believe in compromise and a lot of republicans say the same thing. they say let's find common ground and act on that. well, there just isn't much common ground. if, in fact, the numbers we're hearing about the senate deal, whether $450,000 threshold or $550,000, that is not a matter of principle. that's just a matter of policy and splitting hairs and differences of dollars. so i think unfortunately we've got a lot of people on the other side of
numbers one and two this year are fiscal cliff and kick the can down the road. now, regardless of today's outcome is the damage already done for congress? whether they come up with a small deal or not here when it comes to the american people, they've already decided congress is useless. >> well, i think those of us who tried to function over the last couple years in congress have been saying that. we can't figure out who even the 10%, who support congress, are. we are totally...
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>>> what does sex have in common with the fiscal cliff? i'm now for the sidebar. america's most famous sex therapist is weighing in on the stalled attacks. here's her take on this. members of congress who can't compromise probably aren't good lovers, sex requires give and take. allen west is one of hose members at least for the next few days. it is month surprise the republican from florida is criticizing the president. >> what the president is propose sing not rag mattic and it is a reflection of him living in some type of fantasy world. >> don't expect to see michelle obama's name on ballot any time soon. at least not according to david axelrod. >> you know, i think she sees her role much more as a private role. she's done a wonderful job with her kids. she will find ways to make contributions, i'm sure, but the last thing i think she would do is run for public office. >> the white house is getting flooded with requests to legally recognize the baptist church as a hate group. we the people petition already has more than 288,000 signatures. the kansas based group
>>> what does sex have in common with the fiscal cliff? i'm now for the sidebar. america's most famous sex therapist is weighing in on the stalled attacks. here's her take on this. members of congress who can't compromise probably aren't good lovers, sex requires give and take. allen west is one of hose members at least for the next few days. it is month surprise the republican from florida is criticizing the president. >> what the president is propose sing not rag mattic and it...
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cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have to appreciate the citing of "so what" because that's a bass feature. look, i've got to say. going over the cliff at this point i think is better than accepting a bad deal, and i don't think that we should operate from the perspective that going over the cliff temporarily must be avoided at all costs because a short trip over the cliff, what you might think of as a bungee jump, is a lot better in the longer term both for the economy and for deficit reduction than crafting a deal at the very last minute that would be just some kind of an ugly frankenstein. now, the -- the worst part about going over the cliff is that a couple of million people actually lose their unemployment benefits, so i don't want to say that it's painless because it's not, but it -- it does -- there is a scenario by which you could reverse all of the -- most of the tax increases pretty quickly, and, remember, after december 31st midnight, if you're a republican
cliff. >> well, first of all, as a former jazz bassist i have to appreciate the citing of "so what" because that's a bass feature. look, i've got to say. going over the cliff at this point i think is better than accepting a bad deal, and i don't think that we should operate from the perspective that going over the cliff temporarily must be avoided at all costs because a short trip over the cliff, what you might think of as a bungee jump, is a lot better in the longer term both...
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cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point fingers in opposite directions, hinting that talks could go into the new year. >> are we going over the cliff? >> i believe we are, and i think the president is eager to go over the cliff for political purposes. he senses a victory at the bottom of the cliff. >> we only have nine days left here. when are we going to get serious about actual solutions? i would welcome john to tell me. he says he wants a solution. give us one, john. >> meanwhile, president obama is spending christmas in hawaii where he and the first
cliff. will a shift too the senate save the day? then paradise lost. will president obama leave hawaii behind the day after christmas if a deal is in the works and the election hangover. new comments from one of mitt romney's sons that you might describe as puzzling. what do they really mean? and the gun battle rages on. new reports on why nothing may get done even after the sandy hook tragedy. >>> a massive tax hike and spending cuts -- republicans and democrats continue to point...
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while the fiscal cliff creeps ever closer. will there be a big new years resolution? plus -- >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> the head of the nra speaks out exclusively to nbc news intensifying the emotionally charged debate on gun control. it's monday, december 24th. welcome to this special edition of "m schsnb"msnbc." as for president obama and john boehner, they are miles apart. neither are them talking about the deal the country really needs. kristin, we were talking yesterday that there's a possibility the president was considering coming back early perhaps thshould they strike a deal of some sort. >> i think it's likely president obama will cut his vacation short. we haven't gotten guidance about when that is going to happen. the white house is calling this a working vacation, but the reality is that talks are largely deadlocked over the fiscal cliff. there have been a few conversations going on at the staff level but really the e
while the fiscal cliff creeps ever closer. will there be a big new years resolution? plus -- >> if it's crazy to call for putting police and armed security in our school to protect our children, then call me crazy. >> the head of the nra speaks out exclusively to nbc news intensifying the emotionally charged debate on gun control. it's monday, december 24th. welcome to this special edition of "m schsnb"msnbc." as for president obama and john boehner, they are miles...